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DBSK MISTREATMENT
читать дальшеMy friend found this on a site and I want to share it with everyone who is a DBSK fan. Another thing, I DIDN'T write this okay? So whatever is written here is written by the person who originally posted this.
"Okay - here's how the whole story goes... Lee Soo Man is the head producer - he's basically in charge of everything that goes on in SM... (SM used to stand for Soo Man but it's something else now..I forget...Star something...) He's like..completely horrible! I mean, personally, I have nothing against SM the label, it's more like..the people who run it.
There's a saying in Korea that states: "If you don't make it with SM then you can't make it anywhere." It's actually half true. The reason Shinhwa broke away from SM is that they couldn't stand not being able to participate in recording their album (like writing songs, being more active in the whole process, not being controlled), and the only reason why they're still doing fine is that their fan base is HUGE and the fans are VERY supportive of their split from SM. Shinhwa was fed up with their songs being controlled, and fed up with being hit and bullied by SM managers. -__-;;
As for HOT not getting back together, it's really crappy. Moon HeeJun from HOT went solo, as you may know, and after his first album, they withdrew funding from him and decided to focus on the "hotter, newer stars" like DBSK and BoA. Basically, he was left on the back burner and left to fend for himself. He released his later albums from money in his own pocket and donations from loyal fans. Awww...
Basically, when you get old/get less popular in SM, they just leave you to rot. They'll discard you like an old sock. SM controls your life - when you sign on, you're basically signing away your soul. When DBSK was first formed, Soo Man gave the order to put the boys on a water diet (they basically starved the boys to the extreme) to make their faces slimmer so that they look better in pictures. They often try to get artists to get plastic surgery in order to boost their appearances. No joke. SM goes for looks first, then talent. (They got lucky with DBSK - looks AND talent.)
Rumor has it (and I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed, at least, according to my sources...) that SM hits/beats their artists whenever they make a mistake, and often they are driven to sickness by exhaustion and fatigue. Remember when Micky/Yoochun was in the hospital with appendicitis? Yah..there you go...
The probably only exception to the abuse is BoA, SM's favored artist, of whom I've heard indirectly from her coordinators that she's really stuck-up and really bossy. Hence, I do not like her (I never did.) - sorry BoA fans! (By all means keep liking her if you do!)
When the whole scare that DBSK was going to be rotated came around (meaning winter-spring time this year), did you see the members cry at the perf.s and such? Well, I believe they were screamed at, then hit around, and they were banned from going to any press conferences. They were split up (put into different rooms and such) and they weren't allowed to discuss anything regarding it. I believe if they were going to rotate, they had announced that JaeJoong and Yoochun would be the first to leave because they "cause so much trouble".
If the fans did not stage the boycott of SM goods, I believe they really would have rotated DBSK. Plus the fact that Changmin is still a minor and their parents can still sue SM under their contract.
So...if SM is so horrible..why would you sign on under it?
Because, it gives you FAME. SM is RUTHLESS when it comes to making it to the top, and you are almost guaranteed some sort of fame. Secondly, THEY PAY FOR YOUR COLLEGE. They give you all these opportunities that are probably pretty good. ...I believe (I remember reading this) an average SM group like DBSK makes around 3 CENTS or something per album/single they sell. That split 5 ways is less than 1 cent per member. Yah - in the end, it may add up, but really, SM just sucks out the profit. It's a money making machine in the entertainment business. SOO MAN TAKES MOST OF THE PROFITS HIMSELF - HE IS LIKE...ONE OF THE RICHEST MEN IN KOREA.
Basically...Lee Soo Man is running this company that controls everything that goes on in their artists' lives. Although he's NOT THE PRESIDENT, he has the MOST POWER. Don't ask me how that works...I'm not sure... -__-;;; Even the president resigned this year due to everything that's been going on. Basically...I CAN'T STAND LEE SOO MAN. He deserves...really bad things to happen to him. -__-;;;
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1. what do you mean by being rotated?? do you mean breaking them up??
What happened was...if you look at other SM groups, there usually is one or two lead singer(s) and the rest are rappers (those who can't sing as well but look pretty) or back-up singers. When DBSK was formed, they put 5 would-be "lead singers" (like - if they were all in different groups, they would all be the lead singers) together, and of course, it was very successful. HOWEVER - here's where the rotation part comes in. When SM was really gunning for their girl group SES (remember them? with Shoo, Eugene, and Bada), SM took them to Japan and China to gain more ground in the Asian music industry. But what happened was that when they left Korea, a new girl group was debuted under another company...you probably have heard of them too...FINKL (with Hyori, etc.) After the whole fiasco of FinkL becoming very popular in Korea and sharing SES's level of success (SES fans shifted to FinkL for the time being when they went to Japan and China), SM vowed to never have that happen again - to always have their artists be ..1 in Korea. So what did they do? They had this crazy idea to make DBSK a rotating group. That means when DBSK goes to Japan/China/other places, one or two members will be taken out to work with other groups/on solo projects in Korea, as to maintain DBSK popularity in Korea and eliminate rival groups. The original 5 would basically not perform with each other anymore - there would be like 3 or so originals, and 2 or so rotated members. The original members would all be rotated in and out in between solo projects and other group projects. Crazy - yes I know - but true. SM is one monopoly on the Korean music market.
2. what do they mean about Hiro and Micky causing trouble?? are they rebellious towards the company?? and if so, who wouldn't be...
Jaejoong/Hero/Hiro: They have fan meetings/signings yah? Well, apparently there were instances where there were LONG lines to meet DBSK. There were instances where there are 5 separate lines - one for each member. Well, one time, there was NO ONE in JAEJOONG'S LINE (T_T awww...I so would have gone in that line if I saw that!) and the managers who were coordinating the event were like..to fans in the other lines.. "do you want to get into this line?" and they would be like...NO! (GOSH! THEY'RE SO MEAN/RUDE! T_T) And it made Jaejoong really sad. The other members encouraged fans to get into JaeJoong's line, but apparently it didn't work. SM was beginning to believe Jaejoong was getting less popular, so they wanted him to work on other projects first - as a result.
Yoochun/Micky: ...I don't know if you noticed this, but around the time they were announcing the rotation, he began to cry/breaking down during performances (which, I heard, he got hit for T_T) and in SM's words... "causing trouble". Therefore, they wanted to remove him from DBSK first also.
SM - Ну, все, девки. Пакуйте вещи, едем в Корею, спасать мальчиков!
Одни нецензурные выражения! Взято с форума: http://asianfanatics.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=380265&st=400DBSK MISTREATMENT
читать дальшеMy friend found this on a site and I want to share it with everyone who is a DBSK fan. Another thing, I DIDN'T write this okay? So whatever is written here is written by the person who originally posted this.
"Okay - here's how the whole story goes... Lee Soo Man is the head producer - he's basically in charge of everything that goes on in SM... (SM used to stand for Soo Man but it's something else now..I forget...Star something...) He's like..completely horrible! I mean, personally, I have nothing against SM the label, it's more like..the people who run it.
There's a saying in Korea that states: "If you don't make it with SM then you can't make it anywhere." It's actually half true. The reason Shinhwa broke away from SM is that they couldn't stand not being able to participate in recording their album (like writing songs, being more active in the whole process, not being controlled), and the only reason why they're still doing fine is that their fan base is HUGE and the fans are VERY supportive of their split from SM. Shinhwa was fed up with their songs being controlled, and fed up with being hit and bullied by SM managers. -__-;;
As for HOT not getting back together, it's really crappy. Moon HeeJun from HOT went solo, as you may know, and after his first album, they withdrew funding from him and decided to focus on the "hotter, newer stars" like DBSK and BoA. Basically, he was left on the back burner and left to fend for himself. He released his later albums from money in his own pocket and donations from loyal fans. Awww...
Basically, when you get old/get less popular in SM, they just leave you to rot. They'll discard you like an old sock. SM controls your life - when you sign on, you're basically signing away your soul. When DBSK was first formed, Soo Man gave the order to put the boys on a water diet (they basically starved the boys to the extreme) to make their faces slimmer so that they look better in pictures. They often try to get artists to get plastic surgery in order to boost their appearances. No joke. SM goes for looks first, then talent. (They got lucky with DBSK - looks AND talent.)
Rumor has it (and I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed, at least, according to my sources...) that SM hits/beats their artists whenever they make a mistake, and often they are driven to sickness by exhaustion and fatigue. Remember when Micky/Yoochun was in the hospital with appendicitis? Yah..there you go...
The probably only exception to the abuse is BoA, SM's favored artist, of whom I've heard indirectly from her coordinators that she's really stuck-up and really bossy. Hence, I do not like her (I never did.) - sorry BoA fans! (By all means keep liking her if you do!)
When the whole scare that DBSK was going to be rotated came around (meaning winter-spring time this year), did you see the members cry at the perf.s and such? Well, I believe they were screamed at, then hit around, and they were banned from going to any press conferences. They were split up (put into different rooms and such) and they weren't allowed to discuss anything regarding it. I believe if they were going to rotate, they had announced that JaeJoong and Yoochun would be the first to leave because they "cause so much trouble".
If the fans did not stage the boycott of SM goods, I believe they really would have rotated DBSK. Plus the fact that Changmin is still a minor and their parents can still sue SM under their contract.
So...if SM is so horrible..why would you sign on under it?
Because, it gives you FAME. SM is RUTHLESS when it comes to making it to the top, and you are almost guaranteed some sort of fame. Secondly, THEY PAY FOR YOUR COLLEGE. They give you all these opportunities that are probably pretty good. ...I believe (I remember reading this) an average SM group like DBSK makes around 3 CENTS or something per album/single they sell. That split 5 ways is less than 1 cent per member. Yah - in the end, it may add up, but really, SM just sucks out the profit. It's a money making machine in the entertainment business. SOO MAN TAKES MOST OF THE PROFITS HIMSELF - HE IS LIKE...ONE OF THE RICHEST MEN IN KOREA.
Basically...Lee Soo Man is running this company that controls everything that goes on in their artists' lives. Although he's NOT THE PRESIDENT, he has the MOST POWER. Don't ask me how that works...I'm not sure... -__-;;; Even the president resigned this year due to everything that's been going on. Basically...I CAN'T STAND LEE SOO MAN. He deserves...really bad things to happen to him. -__-;;;
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1. what do you mean by being rotated?? do you mean breaking them up??
What happened was...if you look at other SM groups, there usually is one or two lead singer(s) and the rest are rappers (those who can't sing as well but look pretty) or back-up singers. When DBSK was formed, they put 5 would-be "lead singers" (like - if they were all in different groups, they would all be the lead singers) together, and of course, it was very successful. HOWEVER - here's where the rotation part comes in. When SM was really gunning for their girl group SES (remember them? with Shoo, Eugene, and Bada), SM took them to Japan and China to gain more ground in the Asian music industry. But what happened was that when they left Korea, a new girl group was debuted under another company...you probably have heard of them too...FINKL (with Hyori, etc.) After the whole fiasco of FinkL becoming very popular in Korea and sharing SES's level of success (SES fans shifted to FinkL for the time being when they went to Japan and China), SM vowed to never have that happen again - to always have their artists be ..1 in Korea. So what did they do? They had this crazy idea to make DBSK a rotating group. That means when DBSK goes to Japan/China/other places, one or two members will be taken out to work with other groups/on solo projects in Korea, as to maintain DBSK popularity in Korea and eliminate rival groups. The original 5 would basically not perform with each other anymore - there would be like 3 or so originals, and 2 or so rotated members. The original members would all be rotated in and out in between solo projects and other group projects. Crazy - yes I know - but true. SM is one monopoly on the Korean music market.
2. what do they mean about Hiro and Micky causing trouble?? are they rebellious towards the company?? and if so, who wouldn't be...
Jaejoong/Hero/Hiro: They have fan meetings/signings yah? Well, apparently there were instances where there were LONG lines to meet DBSK. There were instances where there are 5 separate lines - one for each member. Well, one time, there was NO ONE in JAEJOONG'S LINE (T_T awww...I so would have gone in that line if I saw that!) and the managers who were coordinating the event were like..to fans in the other lines.. "do you want to get into this line?" and they would be like...NO! (GOSH! THEY'RE SO MEAN/RUDE! T_T) And it made Jaejoong really sad. The other members encouraged fans to get into JaeJoong's line, but apparently it didn't work. SM was beginning to believe Jaejoong was getting less popular, so they wanted him to work on other projects first - as a result.
Yoochun/Micky: ...I don't know if you noticed this, but around the time they were announcing the rotation, he began to cry/breaking down during performances (which, I heard, he got hit for T_T) and in SM's words... "causing trouble". Therefore, they wanted to remove him from DBSK first also.
SM - Ну, все, девки. Пакуйте вещи, едем в Корею, спасать мальчиков!
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19.04.2007 в 18:03не уверена, что в Дж.Е. к мальчикам относятся лучше, но это хотя бы не вытекает на публику так, как это происходит в СМ.
Никогда не прощу этому уроду избиение Чангмина!!! Он не имеет никакого права на это и очень жаль, что никто не может прийти и набить ему морду в ответ.
Мы однозначно собираем манатки и двигаем в Корею. Что значит, Хиро стал менее популярным????? ЧУШЬ НЕСУСВЕТНАЯ! И вообще, где они еще такой вокал найдут, мне интересно?
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19.04.2007 в 23:41Можно мне кратенько про "Хиро стал менее популярным"?
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20.04.2007 в 01:04Так, ну, в общем, реферирование... Ну, речь тут идет о Lee Soo Man, главном продюсере SM и человеке, все контролирующем. О том, как он и его компания использует талантливых мальчиков(и девочек) и наживается на них, а когда они перестают приносить доход и теряют популярность, буквально выбрасывает их. По слухам, SM часто бъет их и наказывает за малейшую провинность и доводит до истощения. Что касается DBSK... с ними это часто случается. Говорят, что когда сформировалась группа, мальчиков заставили голодать, чтобы их лица выглядели фотогеничнее. Иногда их также запирают в разных комнатах, чтобы они ничего не могли обсуждать. Говорилось даже о том, что некоторым участникам грозит изгнание. Особенно попадает JaeJoong и Yoochun. "От них слишком много проблем" Еще говорилось о rotating group. Это значит, что DBSK хотели разбить. Так, чтобы часть ехала в Японию/Китай для промо, а часть оставалась в Корее, чтобы поддерживать популярность.
Теперь, что касается "Хиро стал менее популярным"?
Тут говорится, про раздачи автографов. Люди выстраиваються в 5 отдельных очередей, так? Ну, вот, как-то раз, в к Хиро очереди вообще не было! Он очень расстроился. Тогда SM решили, что Хиро теряет популярность, и даже хотели направить его работать над другим проектом.
Примечание переводчика: Сволочи! Они не ценят истинную красоту и талант! Они его не заслужили! Пусть отдают его нам!
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20.04.2007 в 02:34сохраню и прочитаю потом, когда будет депрессия.
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20.04.2007 в 10:05Ааа.... Ну, про слухи о ЛСМ я в курсе.
Не расстраивайся, это только слухи - нет никаких явных подтверждений, что это правда.
Так, чтобы часть ехала в Японию/Китай для промо, а часть оставалась в Корее, чтобы поддерживать популярность.
Насчет этого я слышала, что хотели, вообще, сделать две группы: Макс, Хиро и китайский мальчик в Китае, остальные - Корея.
Ну, вот, как-то раз, в к Хиро очереди вообще не было! Он очень расстроился. Тогда SM решили, что Хиро теряет популярность, и даже хотели направить его работать над другим проектом.
Моя карамелька! Зная об его болезненной реакции на внимание (как он убивался на Exclamation Mark >< ), за что они с ним так?! ><''
Это часом произошло не после того, как его задержали нетрезвым за рулем? К нему тогда, кажется, даже Юнхо тылом повернулся. -.-
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20.04.2007 в 10:22Сволочи! Они не ценят истинную красоту и талант! Они его не заслужили! Пусть отдают его нам!
именно!
Это часом произошло не после того, как его задержали нетрезвым за рулем? К нему тогда, кажется, даже Юнхо тылом повернулся. -.-
О, а когда такое было???
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20.04.2007 в 18:21Не расстраивайся, это только слухи - нет никаких явных подтверждений, что это правда.
Даже если половина из этого правда, это уже кОшмар. А слухи, они ведь тоже просто так не рождаются.
Это часом произошло не после того, как его задержали нетрезвым за рулем?
Это мы не знам.
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04.10.2012 в 01:57Бедненькие.. DBSK ведь тоже не железные им отдых нужен и т. д., а они на них давят! Как будто они роботы какие-то! Бедные Dong Bang Shin Ki. Небось их тоже сейчас бьют. Компания называется. Ужас какой!