Ah, it's been a long time... I wanted to do this ages ago. I hardly ever play games anymore. But these two were more than a little distaction. These are the games that became a part of my world. And I wanted to have them. I never really won the way I wanted and doubt that I will. Now it doesn't bring half the pleasure it used to. But I'm so pleased. It was one hell of a task to download them. And hey, now I have a slight idea what patches are. And I don't even think I want to know any more))